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Mind-body problem? But there is no body! (Chomsky’s Mentalism)

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There are claims there is no mind-body problem, on at least two different grounds: There is no mind to reduce to body, or no body to which mind can be reduced. The first of these two arguments is sometimes asserted by eliminative materialists, who claim that nothing in reality corresponds to our folk psychological notions of consciousness (Churchland 1981, Churchland 1986, Dennett 1978). As neuroscience progresses we will not reduce such notions to neural activity; we will abandon them, much as we abandoned phlogiston. We will instead adopt the language of neurophysiology.

The second argument, that there is no body to which mind can be reduced, is made most notably by Chomsky (1980, 2000), who argues that there has been no coherent formulation of the mind-body problem since Newton introduced action-at-a-distance and, thereby, destroyed any principled demarcation between the physical and non-physical. Chomsky concludes that consciousness is a property of organized matter, no more reducible than rocks or electromagnetism (Chomsky 2000, p. 86). However, what counts as matter is no clearer than what counts as physical. And why should we expect, in the non-dualistic setting that Chomsky endorses, that consciousness is a property of matter rather than vice versa ?

(Conscious Realism and the Mind-Body Problem, Source 1)

Over-generous funding for over-ambitious projects turns out to be a characteristic speciality of US academia. Following Europe’s self-destruction in the second world war, Chomsky explains, the US found itself with unprecedented power and prestige. This led to the confidence, first expressed in the 1950s and still expressed today, that with the US having conquered the world, its scientists could now conquer the last frontier – the human mind.

“We’ve just finished a ‘decade of the brain’ programme backed by major foundations. The closing conference at the United Academy of Arts and Sciences produced the very confident statement that the body/mind problem will soon be overcome and that the mind will finally be understood.

“Well, firstly, there is no such problem, because there has been no coherent concept of body since Isaac Newton, so there’s nothing to overcome. And secondly, the confidence is completely misplaced since we can’t even explain how the human visual system can recognise a straight line. The truth is that there’s still a huge gap between current understanding and the mental aspects of the world we’re trying to account for.”

Despite having revolutionised the way we think about language and the mind and notwithstanding the considerable insights produced by almost half a century of sustained research, Chomsky still finds his work criticised outright as “mentalistic” and therefore unscientific on the grounds that it cannot be reduced to physics. Chemistry, he argues, was not reducible to physics, but that didn’t make it unscientific. Rather, it was physics which had to be reconstituted so as to be able to incorporate a virtually unchanged chemistry.

Many modern thinkers, he says, simply haven’t understood the full significance of Newton’s discovery of gravity. “The possibility of affecting objects without touching them just exploded physicalism and materialism. It has been common in recent years to ridicule Descartes’s “ghost in the machine” in postulating mind as distinct from body. Well, Newton came along and he did not exorcise the ghost in the machine: he exorcised the machine and left the ghost intact. So now the ghost is left and the machine isn’t there. And the mind has mystical properties.

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(Source 2)

The usual assumption is that we have a clear understanding of what matter is, and that the difficulty has to do with explaining how thoughts, sensations, and other mental phenomena relate to material processes in the nervous system. Are the former identical to or supervenient upon the latter? Various anti-materialist arguments purport to show that they cannot be either, which seems to entail some form of dualism. But in that case we face the interaction problem. In any event, the “body” side of the mind-body problem is usually taken to be unproblematic; it is mind that raises the puzzles, or so it is thought.

Chomsky rejects this assumption. In his view, “body” is as problematic as mind; so much so that we do not even have a clear idea of what the mind-body problem is. As he writes in Language and Problems of Knowledge: The Managua Lectures:

The mind-body problem can be posed sensibly only insofar as we have a definite conception of body. If we have no such definite and fixed conception, we cannot ask whether some phenomena fall beyond its range. The Cartesians offered a fairly definite conception of body in terms of their contact mechanics, which in many respects reflects commonsense understanding. Therefore they could sensibly formulate the mind-body problem… (p. 142)

[However] the Cartesian concept of body was refuted by seventeenth-century physics, particularly in the work of Isaac Newton, which laid the foundations for modern science. Newton demonstrated that the motions of the heavenly bodies could not be explained by the principles of Descartes’s contact mechanics, so that the Cartesian concept of body must be abandoned. (p. 143)

In other words, when we think of causation in the natural world as Descartes did – that is, as involving literal contact between two extended substances – then the way in which a thought or a sensation relate to a material object becomes mysterious. Certainly it cannot be right to think of a thought or sensation as making literal physical contact with the surface of the brain, or in any other way communicating motion in a “push-pull” way. But when we give up this crude model of causation, as Newton did, the source of the mystery disappears. At the same time, no systematic positive account of what matter as such is has ever really been put forward to replace Descartes’ conception. Hence, Chomsky continues:

There is no longer any definite conception of body. Rather, the material world is whatever we discover it to be, with whatever properties it must be assumed to have for the purposes of explanatory theory. Any intelligible theory that offers genuine explanations and that can be assimilated to the core notions of physics becomes part of the theory of the material world, part of our account of body. If we have such a theory in some domain, we seek to assimilate it to the core notions of physics, perhaps modifying these notions as we carry out this enterprise. (p. 144)

(Source 3)

Well, I think we are not in Kansas anymore… 😉

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  1. Don Smalter

    The following is VERY IMPORTANT if you are
    interested in being open minded about life after death.
    Electro-magnetic imprint of DNA goes with you in the death transition! Multi-life
    history/experience/deeds in Junk DNA ? Scientific evolution through 15 dimensions?
    Unseen IMPERISHABLE “bodies” in aura? Brain is not the mind! Mind based upon
    mental (or reasoning) body of aura! Mind goes with you in death!!
    Note: I lost both of my parents at their early age of 57. This caused me to launch a parttime
    fifty year study of “what comes next after death?” Topics I researched were such as
    the Mother Mary apparitions, a variety of religion beliefs other than my former Catholic,
    the paranormal, quantum physics, biology, genomics, messages from the afterlife,
    instrumental transcommunication (ITC) via tapes & TV, UFOs, and extraterrestrial
    messages, trying to find out answers, primarily thru books, science magazines, and
    websites, obviously with a very open mind.
    I was particularly interested in answering this question: How can it be that it is possible to
    contact afterdeath personalities as if they were still of full mental capability — via paranormal
    MEDIUMS, or even by special ITC electronic communications, as has been demonstrated
    repeatedly? As a retired engineer/executive, I needed to understand exactly HOW
    “mechanically”or structurally this could be possible. I FOUND THE ANSWER:
    Electromagnetic/energetic version of DNA — and unseen IMPERISHABLE body aura containing
    the mind go with you in death transition!!
    Two books in particular provided key answers, and both were most believable due to being very
    comprehensive and “scientific” though not related to much of Christian/Judeo training. Below I
    have compiled short summaries and excerpts for your possible interest. Also, a short list of books
    that reinforced these two. I hope you will keep an open mind in reading them. An old Chinese
    proverb states: “A mind is like a parachute. It only functions when it is OPEN.”
    To summarize the first book, a dictation by a benevolent extraterrestrial group Guardian Alliance,
    it teaches SCIENTIFIC EVOLVEMENT: 1) Your electro-magnetic or energetic version of DNA
    goes with you in the death transition. 2) you will reincarnate repeatedly and the JUNK DNA
    holds your personal multi-life history and experience. 3) Your consciousness will next progress
    eventually through fifteen dimensions toward “nirvana”perfection, currently being in the third.
    All other dimensions are unseen and have different vibrational frequencies and atomic
    configurations. 4) Christ came to us as a teacher from the twelfth or higher dimension. 5) God
    is the Universe Prime Creator/Force/Source, and not the god Yahweh of the Old Testament who
    was an Ancient Astronaut to Earth.
    As dictated by Ascended Masters, key messages in the second book were: 1) There are other
    unseen IMPERISHABLE “bodies” around the physical one in an aura (Note: As seen by
    Kirlian/GDV photography, see Wikipedia re: the paranormal aura). Key bodies are the astral, the
    mental (or reasoning), the etheric, among several others. 2) The brain is not the mind. The mental
    body is the basis/source of the mind. 3) All these “bodies” go with you in the death transition,
    especially including the mind. 4) In the next step, all these bodies and DNA will proceed with
    you into the astral plane or dimension. 5) do not fear death as it is merely a transition to another
    “form”.
    See the more detailed excerpts below. Also, a short list of other reinforcing books. To me, these
    were “startling” concepts, but comforting in their believability as they “fit” based on other related
    research.
    There does need to be more scientific research especially on 1) electromagnetic/energetic &
    biophotonic properties of DNA, and 2) functions of the aura(or bio-energy field)! Russian and
    German scientific researchers are “on track” to one day scientifically prove life continues after
    death. Dr. Fritz-Albert Popp and son Jurgen at University of Marburg, Germany continue early
    work on electromagnetic aspects/versions of DNA and cell biophotonics as members of the Int’l
    Institute of Biophysics, and among others, Dr. Peter Geriaev in Russia with a breakthrough in
    biophotonic electromagnetic DNA termed Wave Genetics or bioholography. And, Dr. Konstantin
    Korotkov, Director at the St. Petersburg State Tech University, who concentrates on aura (or bioenergy
    field) research as Founder/President of the Int’l Union of Medical and Applied
    Bioelectrography, has actually produced early Kirlian/GDV photographs which may be of the
    “soul” or aura leaving dying human bodies. Unfortunately, American research on these two
    “niches” is relatively modest.
    PS: Pass this along if you are so inclined
    Book #1. Source: “Voyagers” Volumes I & II — by ASHAYANA DEANE(Anna Hayes)
    For details see Chapters on Ascension Mechanics & DNA. Available from Amazon.com,
    Volume I and 2nd Edition Vol. II 583 pages. Purchase strongly recommended.
    “At the death of the physical body, you will discover that your consciousness lives on and your
    evolution continues.
    “Ascension is not some lofty spiritual concept designed by the minds of man, it is the literal,
    tangible scientific process of the evolution of consciousness and biology with the laws of energy
    mechanics that apply to a multidimensional reality system. All souls will eventually evolve and
    ascend through a 15 dimensional scale to re-emerge as sentient identity within realms of pure
    consciousness beyond the dimensional systems. Whether or not you view ascension and
    multidimensional evolution as a reality while you are alive on Earth, you will be directly faced
    with that reality once your consciousness has passed out of physical life and into the
    multidimensional framework. How well you prepare for that discovery now will determine the
    ease with which you are able to take your next evolutionary step once you “wake up on the other
    side”
    “The term “Ascension” represents much more than some lofty spiritual concept invented by the
    finite human psyche in order to give purpose to its finite existence. Many in the earthly scientific
    communities believe that life is limited to the physical expression and that consciousness is the
    result of the body’s biochemical/neuro-electrical functions. Following these erroneous beliefs
    they draw an equally erroneous conclusion that consciousness ends at the death of the physical
    body. Consequently, human science will be confronted with a whole new order of
    multidimensional reality and a whole new science.
    “The process of ascension is not some quasi-religious concept based upon the meandering of the
    human mind. Ascension is instead a highly SCIENTIFIC process that represents the universal
    order through which consciousness experiences itself as being. Ascension also involves the
    understanding of morphogenetic fields or the form holding energy constructions that allow
    matter to build into individuated forms. Ascension therefore is a science with specific mechanics
    that allow for the evolution of consciousness from simple to more complex forms. Every being
    in existence is involved in this evolutionary process and applies to each and every one of you.
    The choices one makes in thought and deed will determine the quality of experience, or lack
    thereof, that will be personally encountered.
    “DNA is built upon minute electro-tonal (i.e., multi octave) patterns of multidimensional
    frequency and the energetic imprint of the DNA goes with you in the death transition. The
    content of that pattern will determine how high your consciousness will be able to travel
    (progress) in the system once it is released from the body. Whatever frequencies are contained
    within that imprint will determine the specific dimensional placement after death.
    “This “system” blueprint has called your races forward toward an unseen destiny which is the
    return of immortality and the (eventual) reunion of the consciousness of man with its Prime
    Creative Source. In terms of the soul’s perspective, the challenges and hardships faced along the
    way in Earth life are understood to be lessons in growth as human consciousness evolves to
    remember the truth of its eternal existence and embrace the beauty of its multidimensional
    identity. From the perspective of a human consciousness focused within a physical body on
    Earth, those challenges can seem, at times, overwhelming. Without consciousness recognition of
    the purposes, processes and objectives of the evolutionary plan, the hardships can appear to be
    unbearable and without meaning.
    “All human souls are involved with the exact same process of evolving the genetic “package”
    and the consciousness to higher dimensional levels; some souls are just further along in this
    journey. This is a process by which the life forms evolve through matter particles and antiparticles
    upward through the 15 dimensional scale, from dense matter solidity to pure, nonmattered-
    based conscious energy substance.
    “All dimensions exist in the same space, but seem to operate separately due to the particle
    pulsation rates of which they are composed. The degree of angular rotation of particle spin shifts
    90 degrees from one dimension to the next while remaining invisible to each other. In the
    universe there are 15 primary dimensional bands. Dimensional frequency bands group in sets of
    3 and each set of three dimensions represents a Harmonic Universe. Thus there are five
    Harmonic Universes within one (overall) dimensional Universe. The degree of angular rotation
    of particle spin shifts 90 degrees from one dimension to the next within one Harmonic Universe.
    In each Harmonic Universe containing three dimensions, there are two 90 degree shifts of the
    angular rotation of spin between particles. Between one Harmonic Universe and the next there is
    a 45 degree reverse angular rotation of particle spin. This 45 degree reverse angular rotation of
    particle spin creates a Magnetic Repulsion Zone, or void between Harmonic Universes, which
    keeps the reality fields contained there within separated from each other. Through this structure
    of relative angular rotations of particle spin, the holographic illusions of multidimensional
    reality, matter, time, space, movement and individuation of form are perpetually created and
    sustained. Entities existing below the 7th dimension possess physical biological forms.
    Dimensions 7 through 9 possess the etheric matter form.
    “These multidimensional electromagnetic fields are collectively referred to as the bio-energetic
    system or the aura field of a manifest form. The aura field has seven primary inner layers (i.e.,
    bodies) which correspond to dimensional frequency bands 1 through 7. The aura field also has
    seven outer layers which represent the form-holding MORPHOGENETIC imprints for the seven
    inner layers of the aura field. The morphogenetic imprint holds the instructions and design for
    form-building in a type of digital or electronic encoding. The seven outer layers correspond to
    dimensional frequency bands 9 through 15.
    “The perceptions of your present races are focused within the middle range of the third
    dimension. In order for humanity to evolve into higher dimensional fields, the frequency
    patterns of dimensions four, five and six must be brought into manifest expression with the
    energetic grid of Earth. The frequencies or sound-tones must also become operational within the
    active DNA strands. The energetic imprint of the DNA is carried with the personal
    morphogenetic field and consciousness after physical death of the body. (Note: Morphogenetic
    fields are the form holding patterns through which matter forms. Rupert Sheldrake postulated on
    their existence, but proposed no physical mechanism.) Whatever frequencies are contained with
    that imprint will determine the dimensional placement of the consciousness after death. The
    ultimate success of DNA* building lies in the hands of the embodied consciousness who
    personally directs the process by the way in which personal energy is used and applied.
    *Note 1: Our current scientific community is thoroughly confused about the multiple
    strands of DNA, declaring only a few as having a known usage – and calling the remainder “junk
    DNA.” Over 98% of DNA has an unknown function! However, if it were junk, the sequence of
    the “syllables” i.e., the nucleotides in DNA, should be completely random. In fact, they are not
    random at all, and current scientists now believe that this DNA contains some kind of code with
    function completely unknown or undetermined.
    “(At death), you will move your consciousness through a dark tunnel, with a bright light at its
    end, the same effect as in a Near-Death-Experience (Note: the subject of much book
    investigative reporting).
    “Multiple reincarnational** identities represent portions of a person’s soul awareness evolving.
    To the soul-self identity, the immediate incarnates in its incarnational family are recognized as
    living sub-personality fragments of its own identity whose reality simultaneously takes place
    with the dimensional bands contained within the soul-self’s DNA. The DNA represents electromagnetically
    encoded digital imprints of the other living portions of your identity.
    **Note 2: Reincarnation occurs only in the first Harmonic Universe. “You reincarnate into
    multiple forms and situations because one lifetime is in no way sufficient time, nor does it offer
    sufficient exposures to enough diverse situations to give the fragment-spirit the understanding
    necessary. The best way to learn about poverty, or being rich, or being helpless, or being
    powerful, or being female, or being male is by experiencing lifetimes in such circumstances.”
    Book source: Andareon Theory communication.
    “Consciousness and matter are both composed of these units of electro-tonal energy and so both
    spiritual and scientific mastery are brought together through the applied knowledge of electrotonal
    energy dynamics. For the smallest units of energy in the cosmos you could find 800
    billion billion units in an average 3 dimensional photon. They represent the “divine substance”
    out of which the cosmos is composed.
    “There is an organizational intelligence and sentient creative force of vast proportion that is
    responsible for the design and creation of the cosmos, i.e., the Central Creative Force you call
    God***. Members of the benevolent Guardian Alliance (Note: who communicated this book)
    are beings from higher reality fields, dimensions ten through fifteen, who have evolved beyond
    the manifestation of biology, physical and etheric matter substance into states of conscious prematter
    form who appear as forms of light when they enter your system**** or, occasionally take
    on the appearance of biological forms in order to interact with Earth life, for example: Jesus from
    the 12th dimension.
    ***Note 3: The GOD of the Old Testament Yahweh was an Ancient Astronaut as demonstrated
    by the Jewish-American scholar Zecharia Sitchin who authored multiple books based on
    historical Middle Eastern archeological hieroglyphic interpretations.
    ****Note 4: The above afterlife “system” description is supported in the website Zetatalk.com
    which contains details on souls, reincarnation, DNA and dimensions (density), particularly
    Dimension Four.
    Book #2. “The Treasure of El Dorado” Chapter 7. The Bodies of Man.
    EXCERPTS from dictated communications by Ascended Masters.
    Joseph Whitfield 213 pages. Available through Amazon.com.
    “The value of the TREASURE is literally priceless since it could not be purchased with all the
    material wealth of all worlds. The asset is the SECRET OF OVERCOMING DEATH.
    “Few indeed are aware of the totality of their being. Existing within and around the physical
    bodies are IMPERISHABLE bodies. These other bodies interpenetrate the physical body as well
    as extend beyond it. The various bodies which constitute the total potential of all developing
    human beings are: the physical matter body, the astral (antimatter) body, the etheric (Christ)
    body, the mental body and the emotional body. It is these other bodies that constitute the
    phenomenon referred to as an aura (NOTE: Which has been proven to exist by special
    photographic techniques, see Wikipedia aura paranormal). The reason that the aura is not readily
    seen by most people is that its range of vibration renders it invisible to the physical eye. One’s
    CONSCIOUSNESS and other higher faculties reside in this “spiritual” (frequency existing) body
    and are INDESTRUCTIBLE.
    “WHEN PHYSICAL DEATH OCCURS, THESE OTHER BODIES LEAVE THE PHYSICAL
    BODY AS A UNIT AND BECOME THE OPERABLE VEHICLE THROUGH WHICH THE
    CONSCIOUSNESS CONTINUES TO FUNCTION IN OTHER DIMENSIONS! While one is
    no longer physically incarnated, the astral body houses the other bodies after the transition called
    death. Unlike the physical body, however, the astral body is inviolable, (i.e.,incorruptible).
    “Let us examine some of the functions which the various aspects of the astral body serve while
    one is physically incarnated. The subconscious is the mechanism which performs those vital
    functions that produce automatic actions and reactions on the physical level. Examples of this
    would be breathing, beating of the heart, blinking of the eyelids, digesting, etc. It is the
    subconscious which permits the formation of habits and which must be reprogrammed in order to
    break habits and existing beliefs. The subconscious however does not have the capacity for
    rational thought. Everything that is recorded in the brain is also recorded in the subconscious.
    The subconscious contains total memory information FROM ALL PREVIOUS LIVES AND
    EXPERIENCES (as recorded in the energetic DNA).
    “The brain is the memory bank while physically incarnated. The subconscious mind is the
    memory bank for your total experiences. Whatever is recorded in the brain is recorded
    automatically in the subconscious as well.
    “Consider that quality of the astral body that is called soul. Think of a cassette tape (i.e., the
    energetic DNA). When the tape is blank, it can be said to contain no soul. Now fill it with
    recordings. What we have done is to impart attributes to a previously empty cassette. We have
    thus CREATED SOUL. When the life ends, the tape (i.e., the surviving energetic DNA) is filled
    with that essence called SOUL. Within the total soul are many completed “tapes” containing the
    records of all incarnational experiences. The completed “tapes” form the memory bank, or the
    akashic record of each individual being. Whatever information is contained (from past lives),
    whether it be good or evil, true or false, right or wrong, correct or incorrect, can and does
    influence your well-being in your present life. This is why many people go through lifetime
    after lifetime making the same mistakes over and over again. In summary, the subconscious and
    the soul lack discernment. They cannot reason.
    “The conscious part of your mental body provides you with the powers of thinking. Thinking is
    the capacity to discern, reason, rationalize, to exercise self-discipline, to deduce, to employ logic,
    to analyze, inquire, synthesize, judge, investigate, observe, etc. THE BRAIN IS NOT THE
    MIND. It is one of the instruments that the mind uses while you are manifested in the physical
    planes (dimensions) of expression. The mental body has three distinct parts or levels: the
    conscious, the subconscious, and the superconscious. A primary function of the mind or mental
    body is to produce awareness, an incredible tool in the development of potential. As a
    component of the mental body, the subconscious has the ability and the capacity to record all
    sensual, mental, and emotional, and spiritual experiences and to “play back” this information,
    functioning like a tape recorder (i.e. the DNA).
    “The etheric (or Christ) body has been described by enlightened writers. Often referred to as the
    light body due to the effect produced in the atomic structure of this body by the speed of the
    electron movement within the atoms which equals or exceeds the speed of light. Achieving the
    status of etheric (or Christhood) confers upon the recipient many powers not found in the lesser
    bodies. Jesus represents the best example in history. Among the powers he was known to have
    demonstrated were: bilocation, levitation, materialization, healing, etc. Jesus constantly
    reminded his followers that they could do all of these and even greater things.
    “When one achieves the full etheric (or Christ) vibration, then death will no longer have
    dominion over him. It gives him the power to alter his vibrations at will, and thus he can freely
    travel through the physical, astral and etheric vibrations.
    “It is the emotional body that gives you a feeling nature, i.e., that produces the capacity for
    experiencing all levels of emotion such as joy and sorrow, love and hate, compassion and
    malevolence, ecstacy and depression, pleasure and pain, excitement and indifference. The
    emotional capacity is experienced on all levels of expression.
    “The superconscious is the functioning mind of the etheric or Christ self. What is required is that
    man of earth become aware of the existence of the incredible power of the superconscious mind
    and desire its attainment. To give you some idea of the scope of the superconscious mind, think
    of a rating scale numbered from 1 to 10 as representing the range of man’s conscious mind in
    Earth. Then classify the most outstanding geniuses of Earth history using 10 as the ultimate that
    is attainable. You will find that such men as Einstein, Swedenborg, Whitman, etc., would be
    rated from perhaps 7 through 9. By comparison, a pure state of superconsciousness would range
    into the hundreds or thousands. It is quite easy to conclude from this, is it not, that the means
    exist to literally transform Earth into a paradise by educating mankind as to its potential.
    “These bodies constitute man’s potential as he continues to evolve within the “system.” Each
    aspect of our total self is indispensable to the function and purpose of our total being.
    OTHER REINFORCING BOOKS: *** most favored
    Zetatalk by Nancy Lieder, Granet Publishing, dictated by benevolent extraterrestrials
    also see website Zetatalk.com, Section Density, i.e. Dimensions
    ***An Ascension Handbook by Tony Stubbs, Oughten House Pub’g, channeled from Serapis
    Bey
    The Science of the Soul by Robert Siblerud, Sacred Science Publishers
    The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot, Harper Perennial Oneness – the
    Teachings by Rasha, Jodere Group Inc.
    ***Andareon Theory by Robert Gidel, Andareon Foundation Press, dictated by Andar Group
    After We Die, What Then by George Meek, electronics engineer, Ariel Press
    A Lawyer Presents the Case for Afterlife, by Victor Zammit, Gammell Pty, Ltd.,Australia
    also see website Victorzammit.com
    Extraterrestrials in Biblical Prophecy by G. Cope Schellhorn, Horus House Press
    ***The Yahweh Encounters – Controversial Bible Interpretation, by Ann Madden Jones
    Extraterrestrial Contact – the Evidence and Implications by Steven Greer, Cross Point Publishers
    Gods, Genes & Consciousness – Nonhuman Interventiion in Human History
    by Paul Von Ward, Hampton Roads A Seth
    Reader, by Richard Roberts, Vernal Equinox Press The Only
    ***Planet of Choice, by Phyllis Schlemmer, Gateway Books, Bath, UK Vibrational
    Medicine, by Richard Gerber, Chapters 1 & 4, Bear & Co. Life After
    Life by Dr. Konstantin Korotkov, Backbone Publishing Miracles of the
    Storm – Instrumental TransCommunication (ITC), by Mark Macy See website:
    World ITC.org Abduction to the 9th
    Planet, by Michel Desmarquet, Arafura Publishing, Australia

    1. skakos

      This is really a HUGE comment! 🙂 I was wondering for days whether to leave it or reject it. I decided to leave it. I will try to read it. Although I hope you give me some guideline on what are your main points of thought here…

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